i've been steadfast in my beliefs as the surgeon general of the united states and after. i thought there was a great plan in not disadvantaging the children and allowing us to have a dream act. i still believe that's the path forward. it's the most reasonable way to settle this divisive battle that brings no value to the american public. >> i want to get back to health care. that's your strength and you're the expert on it. do you believe in universal health care? do you believe every american should have it? >> as i said in the opening remarks, i believe every american should have access to a basic set of health care benefits. i am okay with the marketplace, i'm okay with competition. in fact, if you look at almost every plan in the last few years and what we do in our states now, what we call accountable care organizations. let's measure what we do. let's make everybody more accountable. let's get quality care at the least cost, but let's make sure every citizen has access to the best care at the least cost. >> all right. richard carmona, great to have you with us tonig